The Debt Ceiling Saga Continues: Grover Norquist vs. Lawrence O'Donnell (VIDEO)

In case you're wondering who Grover Norquist is, he's a conservative lobbyist in D.C. who got the Tea Party freshmen in the House to sign onto a pledge to shrink the size of government until it's so small that you can "drown it in a bathtub."  The pledge requires its signatories to refuse to compromise on raising taxes under any circumstances whatsoever.    From the KC Star:

236 of 242 House Republicans and 41 of 48 GOP senators - including every Texas Republican - have signed his pledge to oppose any increase in tax rates or any elimination of deductions and credits not used to lower rates.

BTW, the Pledge has the following text:

I, ______, pledge to the taxpayers of the state
of , _______and to the American people that I will:

ONE, oppose any and all efforts to increase the marginal income tax
rates for individuals and/or businesses; and
TWO, oppose any net reduction or elimination of deductions and
credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates.

Today on Morning Joe, Grover came up against one of his biggest critics, progressive MSNBC talk show host and former Congressman Lawrence O'Donnell.  Let's just say the two of them had a few choice words for each other:

Start at the 6:00 mark:

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QUESTIONS:
Who made the better argument here about our debt ceiling?
Should tax revenues of any type be off the table in this discussion?
Does Washington have a spending problem, a revenue problem, or both?
Should Senators or Members of Congress take any pledges at all other than their pledge to support and defend the Constitution of the United States?